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Interviewer-
Justin, what is it that you would say you do?
Justin- As I became conscious of myself as a writer,
as a storyteller, I realized everyone is a storyteller in
his or her own. My uncle is a storyteller, he tells jokes
and ditties. And everyone who comes back from travelling
people say where did you go and what happened. And people
are constantly exchanging some bits of stories and so...
I live with someone who is an artist and I found out about
art movements in the past, and a lot of the excitement about
art in the past has been when art came one step further away
from the academy and towards belonging to the public and an
integration into public life and so when I think about what
does the Web mean to me as a storyteller is that the Web
takes that step.
The Web takes steps away from being something that is a
place where storytellers do what they do and more that
people who are storytellers are facilitators and lead by
example or provide spaces and templates for people to do it
themselves and you see online that it is so easy for people
to take email and paste them into Web pages, and take the
Web pages and print them out and everything is so portable
that its a line between when your a storyteller and when
your not a storyteller and when your telling a story to
someone else, those things are lot more fuzzy than they
would have been in the past, and maybe they were just people
that were always standing up and wanting to be heard.
That's something I have always done, that I was never
conscious I was telling a story and a lot of times people
will say tell me a story, Justin, but a lot of times I'm
just willing to interrupt a conversation with a rather
one-sided or irrelevant thing that happened some time before
and I think that's easy to do on the Web because that can
absorb all that lack of contextuality.
Interviewer- In a lot of these conversations, I am
stuck between the difference between the level of
storytelling in personal conversation in which the intimacy
in which are doing it is assumed by everybody listening or
engaged in the story versus public self, public
storytelling, being published where people can hold you to
the words, versus, "Well, I just said that." How do you deal
with the move between public and private that the Web is
inviting?
Justin- When I mention the casual nature of
storytelling that takes place offline that my relatives and
friends are doing all the time, so much of that is about the
local community where its really gossip. This is the story
of this relationship that this person is in, this is the
story about how crazy that person acted that time. And you
know and so on the Web when you are a publisher and
storyteller in an electronic medium that enjoys broad
distribution at a relatively low cost you have to pick and
choose those stories because your community is defined by
those who take time to read it. And the more sensational the
things the more people would want to read them.
I am fortunate that I have a few events that have happened
to me that are interesting enough that I can write about
with some impunity because of some permission either from
the participants or the passing away of the participants. So
I have been able to base some of my more intense writings on
events that are more in the public domain in that I am not
treading on anyone's toes. The lines are drawn with personal
relationships. I offended a company I worked for with an
account of their environment and they asked me to take it
down, and I wouldn't take it down. I took down personal
names and so forth but I wasn't inclined to protect
corporate identity. In the sphere of the Web, you have to
draw a line, do you want to privilege your relationships or
do you imagine yourself as some sort of crusading writer. I
think Mat Drudge is the least personal of those people who
does things that trod on other people's toes by telling
stories that were not meant for the audience that he
had.
For me, its been really rewarding to explore that tension
because I have learned a lot about what my priorities were.
Sometimes when I caught up in the romance of being a writer
and I think the truth is the most important thing, and then
I discover the truth is more flexible than you imagine. And
it often happens best when you are talking to a group of
people that you might otherwise offend, if you were trying
to tell it as you see it, if you relax a little bit you can
enjoy productive, creative collaborations that are difficult
if you are alienating your peer group all the time.
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